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On the IRC front, I note that Sue last had an IRC office hours session on 13 March and there doesn't seem to be any scheduled sessions with Sue in May. Might it be an idea to have another office hours session with Sue soon?

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On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Tom Morris <tom@tommorris.org> wrote:

> On the IRC front, I note that Sue last had an IRC office hours session on
> 13 March and there doesn't seem to be any scheduled sessions with Sue in
> May. Might it be an idea to have another office hours session with Sue soon?


I've currently got a suggestion in for Sue to have an office hours on 5/11,
we're just in the midst of scheduling. :)

Steven
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On 1 May 2012 15:32, Steven Walling <steven.walling@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Tom Morris <tom@tommorris.org> wrote:
>
> > On the IRC front, I note that Sue last had an IRC office hours session on
> > 13 March and there doesn't seem to be any scheduled sessions with Sue in
> > May. Might it be an idea to have another office hours session with Sue
> soon?
>
>
> I've currently got a suggestion in for Sue to have an office hours on 5/11,
> we're just in the midst of scheduling. :)
>
>

Have to say that the last several office hours (of varying nature) have all
been during "business/school hours" in the Americas - and in some cases for
(western) Europe/Africa as well - and the ones on the current schedule are
all pretty much in the middle of business hours for these regions. When so
many office hours are occurring within the same narrow time window, it
really limits the potential participation group to the same people all the
time, and risks becoming a walled garden. Please consider a more diverse
window for office hours in the future. And no, I don't expect that every
office hour be during a time that I'm available, but there's only been one
(out of fifteen) that occurred during the period where Wikimedians are most
active.

Risker/Anne
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On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Risker <risker.wp@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Have to say that the last several office hours (of varying nature) have all
> been during "business/school hours" in the Americas - and in some cases for
> (western) Europe/Africa as well - and the ones on the current schedule are
> all pretty much in the middle of business hours for these regions. When so
> many office hours are occurring within the same narrow time window, it
> really limits the potential participation group to the same people all the
> time, and risks becoming a walled garden. Please consider a more diverse
> window for office hours in the future. And no, I don't expect that every
> office hour be during a time that I'm available, but there's only been one
> (out of fifteen) that occurred during the period where Wikimedians are most
> active.
>
> Risker/Anne
> ________________________
>

That's a good point (that I think has been made and partially addressed in
the past), and I don't to detract from it at all, but let's also note the
difficulty of scheduling off-hours "office hours" for WMF staff members -
they participate during their own work day, which for US-based staff of
course means business hours in the Americas range.

~Nathan
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On 5/2/2012 10:25 AM, Nathan wrote:
> On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Risker<risker.wp@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Have to say that the last several office hours (of varying nature) have all
>> been during "business/school hours" in the Americas - and in some cases for
>> (western) Europe/Africa as well - and the ones on the current schedule are
>> all pretty much in the middle of business hours for these regions. When so
>> many office hours are occurring within the same narrow time window, it
>> really limits the potential participation group to the same people all the
>> time, and risks becoming a walled garden. Please consider a more diverse
>> window for office hours in the future. And no, I don't expect that every
>> office hour be during a time that I'm available, but there's only been one
>> (out of fifteen) that occurred during the period where Wikimedians are most
>> active.
> That's a good point (that I think has been made and partially addressed in
> the past), and I don't to detract from it at all, but let's also note the
> difficulty of scheduling off-hours "office hours" for WMF staff members -
> they participate during their own work day, which for US-based staff of
> course means business hours in the Americas range.
Also a good point. That being said, as I understand it the office staff
are generally allowed a fairly flexible schedule, rather than being
locked into specific hours like a 9-to-5 workday. So I'd consider it a
generous gesture if some of them would occasionally use that flexibility
to arrange for IRC office hours to take place in other time windows.

--Michael Snow

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On 2 May 2012 10:10, Risker <risker.wp@gmail.com> wrote:

> Have to say that the last several office hours (of varying nature) have all
> been during "business/school hours" in the Americas - and in some cases for
> (western) Europe/Africa as well - and the ones on the current schedule are
> all pretty much in the middle of business hours for these regions.  When so
> many office hours are occurring within the same narrow time window, it
> really limits the potential participation group to the same people all the
> time, and risks becoming a walled garden.  Please consider a more diverse
> window for office hours in the future. And no, I don't expect that every
> office hour be during a time that I'm available, but there's only been one
> (out of fifteen) that occurred during the period where Wikimedians are most
> active.

People can help by filling out this Doodle. If a
sufficiently-geographically-representative group fills this out, that
will help us standardize on a few times that (among them) would work
for a large majority. Please share the link on IRC or wherever if you
like, to encourage broad-enough participation :-)

http://doodle.com/hnivrcvz3t5sf2gf

Thanks,
Sue

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