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A call for skins
I've been making some improvements to the skin system for awhile now, so...

If you have a MediaWiki skin you've built, feel free to bring out it's
source code. Currently most of the few custom skins that exist are
floating around the Internet, and they are various degrees of out of
date. Bring up the source code, and I'll look into committing the skin
into svn and cleaning it up stripping away the boilerplate.

I would LOVE skin designs right now. If you've got a nice idea for a
skin feel free to mock it up and post the mockup images for it. If it
looks interesting I'll consider turning it into a real skin, ESPECIALLY
if it break our de-facto traditions on what makes up a wiki skin. Our
rigid skin structure is one of the big limitations of our skinning
system right now, skins that define things beyond the current
restrictions are good examples needed while we break open the rigid
structure of our skins.

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~Daniel Friesen (Dantman, Nadir-Seen-Fire) [http://daniel.friesen.name]


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Re: A call for skins [ In reply to ]
> I would LOVE skin designs right now. If you've got a nice idea for a
> skin feel free to mock it up and post the mockup images for it. If it
> looks interesting I'll consider turning it into a real skin,
> ESPECIALLY
> if it break our de-facto traditions on what makes up a wiki skin. Our
> rigid skin structure is one of the big limitations of our skinning
> system right now, skins that define things beyond the current
> restrictions are good examples needed while we break open the rigid
> structure of our skins.

Have you seen the skin on the DD-WRT wiki? They designed it to look like
their UI,

Cheers,
-- jra

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Re: A call for skins [ In reply to ]
Daniel Friesen wrote:
> I've been making some improvements to the skin system for awhile now, so...
>
> If you have a MediaWiki skin you've built, feel free to bring out it's
> source code. Currently most of the few custom skins that exist are
> floating around the Internet, and they are various degrees of out of
> date. Bring up the source code, and I'll look into committing the skin
> into svn and cleaning it up stripping away the boilerplate.

We need to fix Extension:Distributor for skins folder, too.


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Re: A call for skins [ In reply to ]
On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 9:44 AM, K. Peachey <p858snake@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 7:06 AM, Platonides <Platonides@gmail.com> wrote:
>> We need to fix Extension:Distributor for skins folder, too.
> I've asked Tim about that before, It's not hard to do apparently, so
> just file a bug :p.
> -Peachey
>
In fact, there is already a bug for it:
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16423 you just need to
poke someone to do it now.
-Peachey

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Re: A call for skins [ In reply to ]
On 11-02-07 01:06 PM, Platonides wrote:
> Daniel Friesen wrote:
>> I've been making some improvements to the skin system for awhile now, so...
>>
>> If you have a MediaWiki skin you've built, feel free to bring out it's
>> source code. Currently most of the few custom skins that exist are
>> floating around the Internet, and they are various degrees of out of
>> date. Bring up the source code, and I'll look into committing the skin
>> into svn and cleaning it up stripping away the boilerplate.
> We need to fix Extension:Distributor for skins folder, too.
Mhmm. Personally I sorta wanted a /trunk/skins folder a
Special:SkinDistributor, and a proper Skin: namespace.

~Daniel Friesen (Dantman, Nadir-Seen-Fire) [http://daniel.friesen.name]

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Re: A call for skins [ In reply to ]
On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 9:05 PM, Daniel Friesen
<lists@nadir-seen-fire.com> wrote:
> If you have a MediaWiki skin you've built, feel free to bring out it's
> source code. Currently most of the few custom skins that exist are
> floating around the Internet, and they are various degrees of out of
> date. Bring up the source code, and I'll look into committing the skin
> into svn and cleaning it up stripping away the boilerplate.

Have a look at userstyles.org[1]. I'm not sure what the licences are,
but perhaps we can contact some of the authors? I'm a big fan of
Wikipedia Grey Lady III.

Btw would you mind explaining the difference between a skin and a CSS
file, assuming there is one?

Steve
[1] For those unfamiliar with it, it's a repository of site-specific
CSS files for use with the browser extension Stylish. You pick a style
that someone has defined for a given site, and everytime you visit
that site, you'll get that CSS layered over the top.

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Re: A call for skins [ In reply to ]
On 11-02-08 02:17 AM, Steve Bennett wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 9:05 PM, Daniel Friesen
> <lists@nadir-seen-fire.com> wrote:
>> If you have a MediaWiki skin you've built, feel free to bring out it's
>> source code. Currently most of the few custom skins that exist are
>> floating around the Internet, and they are various degrees of out of
>> date. Bring up the source code, and I'll look into committing the skin
>> into svn and cleaning it up stripping away the boilerplate.
> Have a look at userstyles.org[1]. I'm not sure what the licences are,
> but perhaps we can contact some of the authors? I'm a big fan of
> Wikipedia Grey Lady III.
>
> Btw would you mind explaining the difference between a skin and a CSS
> file, assuming there is one?
>
> Steve
> [1] For those unfamiliar with it, it's a repository of site-specific
> CSS files for use with the browser extension Stylish. You pick a style
> that someone has defined for a given site, and everytime you visit
> that site, you'll get that CSS layered over the top.
A CSS file is simply a stylesheet to style the markup, you can reference
some images from the styles as backgrounds.
An actual skin is comprised of css files, optionally js, images, and
most importantly a php file that is used to generate the markup.
I guess I should be clear, I'm not really looking for just stylesheets,
or the plethora of monobook clones with minor tweaks out there.
The reason why I asked for mockups especially rather than just asking
for skins (besides saying I'd be happy to clean them up and commit them
to svn so that we have an actual maintained repository of the skins) was
since what I'm especially looking for are mockups that have the areas
necessary for a skin to function as a wiki (something blog themes are
lacking making them hard to port as examples) but break the normal rules
(maybe they don't use the standard sidebar, have extra links, do
navigation differently, put categories somewhere else, etc...) of how a
skin looks. Besides some nice extra skins to add to the repo, I need
some examples that break the normal patterns to work with and build as I
rip out the restrictions in the current skin system. And hence I asked
for mockups since such skins are already hard enough that most people
probably would never have got to implementation.

~Daniel Friesen (Dantman, Nadir-Seen-Fire) [http://daniel.friesen.name]


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Re: A call for skins [ In reply to ]
> Besides some nice extra skins to add to the repo, I need
> some examples that break the normal patterns to work with and build as I
> rip out the restrictions in the current skin system. And hence I asked
> for mockups since such skins are already hard enough that most people
> probably would never have got to implementation.
>
> ~Daniel Friesen (Dantman, Nadir-Seen-Fire) [http://daniel.friesen.name]

have a look at http://brightbyte.de (yea i know, i need to upgrade).

-- daniel

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