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[Wikimedia-l] Android "Nearby" Feature (was: Re: Community RfCs about MediaViewer)
On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 10:37 AM, Andy Mabbett
<andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk> wrote:

> It's interesting to read that claim in the content of my "aversion" to
> the unexpected removal of the very useful 'nearby' feature from the
> Android app [1].

(...)

> [1] Promoted by the WMF at the time of its launch:
> http://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/05/29/wikipedia-nearby-beta/ and widely
> reported in the press.

Apologies for the thread-split, but this is OT from the original thread.

This blog post actually referred to the Mobile Web, where the feature
continues to be available (without a map view):
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Nearby

The new Android app isn't simply an upgrade of the last version, it's
a complete re-write in native code -- one which by all accounts has
been extremely well received. In determining the feature set, the team
looked at core functionality they really wanted to deliver in the
first release, and iterated on that based on user feedback during the
beta.

We are in the lucky position to now have a team of three full-time
developers working on the app to make it continually better. You can
see the most recent code changes here:
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/apps/android,n,z

And a more understandable view of the current sprint in Trello:
https://trello.com/b/5DhKhjmW/mobile-app-sprint-35-article-usability-enhancements

So you can expect a pretty fast pace of change.

The team prioritized features that were highly requested and popular
among users. The "nearby" feature in the old app also relied on third
party infrastructure, which makes us a bit uncomfortable from a user
privacy and principles perspective. Our plan is to build out our own
OpenStreetMap infrastructure later this year which will help in
further developing such geo-functionality.

CCing Dan (PM for Apps) in case he wants to weigh in on the roadmap.

Erik
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Android "Nearby" Feature (was: Re: Community RfCs about MediaViewer) [ In reply to ]
The current mobile site and the current Android app reflect a major step
backward in terms of attributing the authors of Wikipedia content.

In February 2012, I initiated discussions that resulted in both the mobile
site and the Android app clearly stating in the footer that the content was
written by "volunteers like you," with a link to the page history, and
thereby, the user accounts of all users.
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34673
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35616

While a mere link to the desktop site's history screen was considered
sufficient, by the WMF's then-general counsel, to meet the letter of the
law (of the CC BY-SA license), what we discussed in those tickets was how
the WMF could exceed what is legally required, in order to demonstrate to
the world what it looks like to properly attribute the contributors of
content who require attribution as part of their choice to create content
for free.

In those 2012 discussions, WMF staff also acknowledged that there were
benefits to going even further in that direction, by pulling the page
history into the mobile view/app itself.

However, in 2014, both the mobile site and the Android app have footers
that lack any mention of the authors of the article, merely inserting a
link that says: "Desktop" (on the mobile site, which is still a click away
from "history") and "Last updated June 29" (on the Android app).

Is the WMF is serious about honoring the copyright licenses Wikipedia's
contributors work under, which require attribution, both technically and in
spirit?

Pete
[[User:Peteforsyth]]


On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Erik Moeller <erik@wikimedia.org> wrote:

> On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 10:37 AM, Andy Mabbett
> <andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk> wrote:
>
> > It's interesting to read that claim in the content of my "aversion" to
> > the unexpected removal of the very useful 'nearby' feature from the
> > Android app [1].
>
> (...)
>
> > [1] Promoted by the WMF at the time of its launch:
> > http://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/05/29/wikipedia-nearby-beta/ and widely
> > reported in the press.
>
> Apologies for the thread-split, but this is OT from the original thread.
>
> This blog post actually referred to the Mobile Web, where the feature
> continues to be available (without a map view):
> http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Nearby
>
> The new Android app isn't simply an upgrade of the last version, it's
> a complete re-write in native code -- one which by all accounts has
> been extremely well received. In determining the feature set, the team
> looked at core functionality they really wanted to deliver in the
> first release, and iterated on that based on user feedback during the
> beta.
>
> We are in the lucky position to now have a team of three full-time
> developers working on the app to make it continually better. You can
> see the most recent code changes here:
> https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/apps/android,n,z
>
> And a more understandable view of the current sprint in Trello:
>
> https://trello.com/b/5DhKhjmW/mobile-app-sprint-35-article-usability-enhancements
>
> So you can expect a pretty fast pace of change.
>
> The team prioritized features that were highly requested and popular
> among users. The "nearby" feature in the old app also relied on third
> party infrastructure, which makes us a bit uncomfortable from a user
> privacy and principles perspective. Our plan is to build out our own
> OpenStreetMap infrastructure later this year which will help in
> further developing such geo-functionality.
>
> CCing Dan (PM for Apps) in case he wants to weigh in on the roadmap.
>
> Erik
> --
> Erik Möller
> VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Android "Nearby" Feature (was: Re: Community RfCs about MediaViewer) [ In reply to ]
On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 3:02 PM, Pete Forsyth <peteforsyth@gmail.com> wrote:

> The current mobile site and the current Android app reflect a major step
> backward in terms of attributing the authors of Wikipedia content.
>
> In February 2012, I initiated discussions that resulted in both the mobile
> site and the Android app clearly stating in the footer that the content was
> written by "volunteers like you," with a link to the page history, and
> thereby, the user accounts of all users.
> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34673
> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35616
>
> While a mere link to the desktop site's history screen was considered
> sufficient, by the WMF's then-general counsel, to meet the letter of the
> law (of the CC BY-SA license), what we discussed in those tickets was how
> the WMF could exceed what is legally required, in order to demonstrate to
> the world what it looks like to properly attribute the contributors of
> content who require attribution as part of their choice to create content
> for free.
>
> In those 2012 discussions, WMF staff also acknowledged that there were
> benefits to going even further in that direction, by pulling the page
> history into the mobile view/app itself.
>
> However, in 2014, both the mobile site and the Android app have footers
> that lack any mention of the authors of the article, merely inserting a
> link that says: "Desktop" (on the mobile site, which is still a click away
> from "history") and "Last updated June 29" (on the Android app).
>

Pete, before making such strong public statements condemning our products,
it might help to use them :) Both the new native apps and the mobile web
site offer a mobile-friendly page history (like this one:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:History/Babe_Ruth). On the apps
it's accessible from the footer, and on the web view the link is given an
extremely prominent place in the UI, at the top of all articles (the "Last
edited by.." line).

I'd recommend you follow the WMF blog to stay abreast of our work on this
and other mobile features, since we wrote about this back in May:
http://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/05/02/the-wikipedia-editors-behind-the-curtain/


>
> Is the WMF is serious about honoring the copyright licenses Wikipedia's
> contributors work under, which require attribution, both technically and in
> spirit?
>
> Pete
> [[User:Peteforsyth]]
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Erik Moeller <erik@wikimedia.org> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 10:37 AM, Andy Mabbett
> > <andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk> wrote:
> >
> > > It's interesting to read that claim in the content of my "aversion" to
> > > the unexpected removal of the very useful 'nearby' feature from the
> > > Android app [1].
> >
> > (...)
> >
> > > [1] Promoted by the WMF at the time of its launch:
> > > http://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/05/29/wikipedia-nearby-beta/ and widely
> > > reported in the press.
> >
> > Apologies for the thread-split, but this is OT from the original thread.
> >
> > This blog post actually referred to the Mobile Web, where the feature
> > continues to be available (without a map view):
> > http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Nearby
> >
> > The new Android app isn't simply an upgrade of the last version, it's
> > a complete re-write in native code -- one which by all accounts has
> > been extremely well received. In determining the feature set, the team
> > looked at core functionality they really wanted to deliver in the
> > first release, and iterated on that based on user feedback during the
> > beta.
> >
> > We are in the lucky position to now have a team of three full-time
> > developers working on the app to make it continually better. You can
> > see the most recent code changes here:
> > https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/apps/android,n,z
> >
> > And a more understandable view of the current sprint in Trello:
> >
> >
> https://trello.com/b/5DhKhjmW/mobile-app-sprint-35-article-usability-enhancements
> >
> > So you can expect a pretty fast pace of change.
> >
> > The team prioritized features that were highly requested and popular
> > among users. The "nearby" feature in the old app also relied on third
> > party infrastructure, which makes us a bit uncomfortable from a user
> > privacy and principles perspective. Our plan is to build out our own
> > OpenStreetMap infrastructure later this year which will help in
> > further developing such geo-functionality.
> >
> > CCing Dan (PM for Apps) in case he wants to weigh in on the roadmap.
> >
> > Erik
> > --
> > Erik Möller
> > VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation
> >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Android "Nearby" Feature (was: Re: Community RfCs about MediaViewer) [ In reply to ]
On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 3:33 PM, Maryana Pinchuk <mpinchuk@wikimedia.org>
wrote:

> On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 3:02 PM, Pete Forsyth <peteforsyth@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > The current mobile site and the current Android app reflect a major step
> > backward in terms of attributing the authors of Wikipedia content.
> Pete, before making such strong public statements condemning our products,
> it might help to use them


I'm using the most recent Mobile Web via Chrome on a recent version of
Android, and the most recent version of the Android app in the Google Play
app store.

Perhaps there are newer versions of both somewhere in a pipeline somewhere,
that address these concerns. I hope so. I don't think I did anything wrong,
though, to be ignorant that the stuff currently being talked about is not
yet live.

And even if that is the case, it is disheartening to know that this lapsed
between 2012 and 2014 without any notifications to those of us who
participated in the Bugzilla tickets. Maybe that's past stuff not worth
dredging up, but it doesn't exactly make me feel like my contributions or
my time were valued. The impression is that my concerns were "managed," not
incorporated.

Pete
[[User:Peteforsyth]]
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Android "Nearby" Feature (was: Re: Community RfCs about MediaViewer) [ In reply to ]
To your specific points:

On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 3:33 PM, Maryana Pinchuk <mpinchuk@wikimedia.org>
wrote:

> (like this one:
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:History/Babe_Ruth).


Even once the reader gets there, how many clicks does it take to get to a
contributor's User Page, where they might state things like their name, and
what they like to work on? I went through about 4 clicks and gave up.


> On the apps
> it's accessible from the footer, and on the web view the link is given an
> extremely prominent place in the UI, at the top of all articles (the "Last
> edited by.." line).
>

IMO "Last edited by" does not indicate that there will be a list of all
contributors. Did you do any user testing to see if people make that
association? It sounds like a stretch, but I'd be interested to see
relevant data.

-Pete
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Android "Nearby" Feature (was: Re: Community RfCs about MediaViewer) [ In reply to ]
On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 5:48 PM, Pete Forsyth <peteforsyth@gmail.com> wrote:

> To your specific points:
>
> On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 3:33 PM, Maryana Pinchuk <mpinchuk@wikimedia.org>
> wrote:
>
> > (like this one:
> > https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:History/Babe_Ruth).
>
>
> Even once the reader gets there, how many clicks does it take to get to a
> contributor's User Page, where they might state things like their name, and
> what they like to work on? I went through about 4 clicks and gave up.
>
>
Two clicks from the mobile history page. Click on a diff, and then the
userpage is linked in bright blue in the bottom left. Underneath that link
is the user's total number of live edits, and you can thank a user for the
edit with a button on the right.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Android "Nearby" Feature (was: Re: Community RfCs about MediaViewer) [ In reply to ]
On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 5:58 PM, Keegan Peterzell <kpeterzell@wikimedia.org>
wrote:

>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 5:48 PM, Pete Forsyth <peteforsyth@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> To your specific points:
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 3:33 PM, Maryana Pinchuk <mpinchuk@wikimedia.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > (like this one:
>> > https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:History/Babe_Ruth).
>>
>>
>> Even once the reader gets there, how many clicks does it take to get to a
>> contributor's User Page, where they might state things like their name,
>> and
>> what they like to work on? I went through about 4 clicks and gave up.
>>
>>
> Two clicks from the mobile history page. Click on a diff, and then the
> userpage is linked in bright blue in the bottom left. Underneath that link
> is the user's total number of live edits, and you can thank a user for the
> edit with a button on the right.
>
>

My apologies, I misread you Pete.

It's three clicks to talk to the user, four to get to the user page.


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Android "Nearby" Feature (was: Re: Community RfCs about MediaViewer) [ In reply to ]
"On 11 July 2014 22:34, Erik Moeller <erik@wikimedia.org> wrote:

> The new Android app isn't simply an upgrade of the last version, it's
> a complete re-write in native code

This technical nicety is of no interest to most users, whose app was "updated".

> In determining the feature set, the team
> looked at core functionality they really wanted to deliver in the
> first release, and iterated on that based on user feedback during the
> beta.

I didn't participate in this round of the beta, because there was no
suggestion in anything that I read that significant - significantly
useful - existing functionality would be removed. (Indeed, the removal
wasn't mentioned when the "revamped" app was announced by your WMF
colleagues.) I did, though, spend some time testing the "nearby"
feature in v1's beta - and demonstrating it when promoting the app to
audiences outside the Wikipedia community.


In splitting this thread and describing it as "off topic", you've
overlooked that my comments were in the context of - and in response
to - your comment about "change-aversion [tending] to correlate pretty
strongly with impact on existing workflows and noticeable changes to
user experience and behaviour".

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Android "Nearby" Feature (was: Re: Community RfCs about MediaViewer) [ In reply to ]
"On 11 July 2014 22:34, Erik Moeller <erik@wikimedia.org> wrote:

> The new Android app isn't simply an upgrade of the last version, it's
> a complete re-write in native code

This technical nicety is of no interest to most users, whose app was "updated".

> In determining the feature set, the team
> looked at core functionality they really wanted to deliver in the
> first release, and iterated on that based on user feedback during the
> beta.

I didn't participate in this round of the beta, because there was no
suggestion in anything that I read that significant - significantly
useful - existing functionality would be removed. (Indeed, the removal
wasn't mentioned when the "revamped" app was announced by your WMF
colleagues.) I did tough, spend some time testing the "nearby" feature
in v1's beta

> And a more understandable view of the current sprint in Trello:
> https://trello.com/b/5DhKhjmW/mobile-app-sprint-35-article-usability-enhancements

I can't find the string "near" on that page.

> The "nearby" feature in the old app also relied on third
> party infrastructure, which makes us a bit uncomfortable from a user
> privacy and principles perspective. Our plan is to build out our own
> OpenStreetMap infrastructure later this year which will help in
> further developing such geo-functionality.

Is this a blocker for the return of the "nearby" feature to the app?


In splitting this thread and describing it as "off topic", you've
overlooked that my comments were in the context of - and in response
to - your comment about "change-aversion [tending] to correlate pretty
strongly with impact on existing workflows and noticeable changes to
user experience and behaviour".

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@pigsonthewing
http://pigsonthewing.org.uk

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Android "Nearby" Feature (was: Re: Community RfCs about MediaViewer) [ In reply to ]
Until then...

http://tools.wmflabs.org/wikishootme/


On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 1:38 AM, Andy Mabbett <andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk>
wrote:

> "On 11 July 2014 22:34, Erik Moeller <erik@wikimedia.org> wrote:
>
> > The new Android app isn't simply an upgrade of the last version, it's
> > a complete re-write in native code
>
> This technical nicety is of no interest to most users, whose app was
> "updated".
>
> > In determining the feature set, the team
> > looked at core functionality they really wanted to deliver in the
> > first release, and iterated on that based on user feedback during the
> > beta.
>
> I didn't participate in this round of the beta, because there was no
> suggestion in anything that I read that significant - significantly
> useful - existing functionality would be removed. (Indeed, the removal
> wasn't mentioned when the "revamped" app was announced by your WMF
> colleagues.) I did tough, spend some time testing the "nearby" feature
> in v1's beta
>
> > And a more understandable view of the current sprint in Trello:
> >
> https://trello.com/b/5DhKhjmW/mobile-app-sprint-35-article-usability-enhancements
>
> I can't find the string "near" on that page.
>
> > The "nearby" feature in the old app also relied on third
> > party infrastructure, which makes us a bit uncomfortable from a user
> > privacy and principles perspective. Our plan is to build out our own
> > OpenStreetMap infrastructure later this year which will help in
> > further developing such geo-functionality.
>
> Is this a blocker for the return of the "nearby" feature to the app?
>
>
> In splitting this thread and describing it as "off topic", you've
> overlooked that my comments were in the context of - and in response
> to - your comment about "change-aversion [tending] to correlate pretty
> strongly with impact on existing workflows and noticeable changes to
> user experience and behaviour".
>
> --
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> @pigsonthewing
> http://pigsonthewing.org.uk
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Android "Nearby" Feature (was: Re: Community RfCs about MediaViewer) [ In reply to ]
Magnus - another great tool, thanks! I just noticed that somewhere someone
made an article for something just down the street from me. I guess I
should go take a picture of it now!
Jane


On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Magnus Manske <magnusmanske@googlemail.com>
wrote:

> Until then...
>
> http://tools.wmflabs.org/wikishootme/
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 1:38 AM, Andy Mabbett <andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk>
> wrote:
>
> > "On 11 July 2014 22:34, Erik Moeller <erik@wikimedia.org> wrote:
> >
> > > The new Android app isn't simply an upgrade of the last version, it's
> > > a complete re-write in native code
> >
> > This technical nicety is of no interest to most users, whose app was
> > "updated".
> >
> > > In determining the feature set, the team
> > > looked at core functionality they really wanted to deliver in the
> > > first release, and iterated on that based on user feedback during the
> > > beta.
> >
> > I didn't participate in this round of the beta, because there was no
> > suggestion in anything that I read that significant - significantly
> > useful - existing functionality would be removed. (Indeed, the removal
> > wasn't mentioned when the "revamped" app was announced by your WMF
> > colleagues.) I did tough, spend some time testing the "nearby" feature
> > in v1's beta
> >
> > > And a more understandable view of the current sprint in Trello:
> > >
> >
> https://trello.com/b/5DhKhjmW/mobile-app-sprint-35-article-usability-enhancements
> >
> > I can't find the string "near" on that page.
> >
> > > The "nearby" feature in the old app also relied on third
> > > party infrastructure, which makes us a bit uncomfortable from a user
> > > privacy and principles perspective. Our plan is to build out our own
> > > OpenStreetMap infrastructure later this year which will help in
> > > further developing such geo-functionality.
> >
> > Is this a blocker for the return of the "nearby" feature to the app?
> >
> >
> > In splitting this thread and describing it as "off topic", you've
> > overlooked that my comments were in the context of - and in response
> > to - your comment about "change-aversion [tending] to correlate pretty
> > strongly with impact on existing workflows and noticeable changes to
> > user experience and behaviour".
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Android "Nearby" Feature (was: Re: Community RfCs about MediaViewer) [ In reply to ]
2014-07-12 13:44 GMT+02:00 Magnus Manske <magnusmanske@googlemail.com>:
> Until then...
>
> http://tools.wmflabs.org/wikishootme/
>

That would be great if there will by filtering by category. So it
could be used to find nearby articles about monument without pictures
- great tool for Wiki Loves Monuments..



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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Android "Nearby" Feature (was: Re: Community RfCs about MediaViewer) [ In reply to ]
An answer would be appreciated...
On Jul 12, 2014 1:38 AM, "Andy Mabbett" <andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk> wrote:

> "On 11 July 2014 22:34, Erik Moeller <erik@wikimedia.org> wrote:
>
> > The new Android app isn't simply an upgrade of the last version, it's
> > a complete re-write in native code
>
> This technical nicety is of no interest to most users, whose app was
> "updated".
>
> > In determining the feature set, the team
> > looked at core functionality they really wanted to deliver in the
> > first release, and iterated on that based on user feedback during the
> > beta.
>
> I didn't participate in this round of the beta, because there was no
> suggestion in anything that I read that significant - significantly
> useful - existing functionality would be removed. (Indeed, the removal
> wasn't mentioned when the "revamped" app was announced by your WMF
> colleagues.) I did tough, spend some time testing the "nearby" feature
> in v1's beta
>
> > And a more understandable view of the current sprint in Trello:
> >
> https://trello.com/b/5DhKhjmW/mobile-app-sprint-35-article-usability-enhancements
>
> I can't find the string "near" on that page.
>
> > The "nearby" feature in the old app also relied on third
> > party infrastructure, which makes us a bit uncomfortable from a user
> > privacy and principles perspective. Our plan is to build out our own
> > OpenStreetMap infrastructure later this year which will help in
> > further developing such geo-functionality.
>
> Is this a blocker for the return of the "nearby" feature to the app?
>
>
> In splitting this thread and describing it as "off topic", you've
> overlooked that my comments were in the context of - and in response
> to - your comment about "change-aversion [tending] to correlate pretty
> strongly with impact on existing workflows and noticeable changes to
> user experience and behaviour".
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Android "Nearby" Feature (was: Re: Community RfCs about MediaViewer) [ In reply to ]
On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 7:28 PM, Andy Mabbett <andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk> wrote:
> An answer would be appreciated...

I know you've been in touch w/ the mobile web team since this thread,
but just to close the loop for the record: "Nearby" (now
re-implemented in native code and with a new UI) is part of today's
stable release of the Android app.

https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/mobile-l/2014-October/008144.html

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Android "Nearby" Feature (was: Re: Community RfCs about MediaViewer) [ In reply to ]
Hah! Of course, I pick the same day to rewrite WikiShootMe...

https://tools.wmflabs.org/wikishootme/

On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 1:27 AM, Erik Moeller <erik@wikimedia.org> wrote:

> On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 7:28 PM, Andy Mabbett <andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk>
> wrote:
> > An answer would be appreciated...
>
> I know you've been in touch w/ the mobile web team since this thread,
> but just to close the loop for the record: "Nearby" (now
> re-implemented in native code and with a new UI) is part of today's
> stable release of the Android app.
>
> https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/mobile-l/2014-October/008144.html
>
> Please join the mobile list for feedback, questions & suggestions.
>
> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l
>
> Cheers,
> Erik
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> VP of Product & Strategy, Wikimedia Foundation
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