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Re: Is Google allowing users to block Wikipedia?
Somebody just contacted me to let me know that he thinks Google is
experimenting with their search result options: one option is to allow
users to block Wikipedia articles from showing up in Google's search
results. Sometimes this option comes up and sometimes is doesn't. Has
anyone else seen this? Does anybody know anything about this?

http://yfrog.com/hsylhpej

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Re: Is Google allowing users to block Wikipedia? [ In reply to ]
2011/3/19 Kul Takanao Wadhwa <kwadhwa@wikimedia.org>:
> Somebody just contacted me to let me know that he thinks Google is
> experimenting with their search result options: one option is to allow
> users to block Wikipedia articles from showing up in Google's search
> results. Sometimes this option comes up and sometimes is doesn't. Has
> anyone else seen this? Does anybody know anything about this?
>

Corroboration:
http://www.bechrome.com/como-bloquear-sitios-en-los-resultados-de-google/

Looks like it's one of their small percentage experiments. Haven't
been able to reproduce it myself. Not clear whether it's just
wikipedia.org or other/all sites.

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Re: Is Google allowing users to block Wikipedia? [ In reply to ]
2011/3/19 Erik Moeller <erik@wikimedia.org>:
> Looks like it's one of their small percentage experiments. Haven't
> been able to reproduce it myself. Not clear whether it's just
> wikipedia.org or other/all sites.

Bence pointed to this explanation:
http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2011/03/hide-sites-to-find-more-of-what-you.html

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Re: Is Google allowing users to block Wikipedia? [ In reply to ]
On 3/19/11 1:56 PM, Erik Moeller wrote:
> 2011/3/19 Erik Moeller <erik@wikimedia.org>:
>> Looks like it's one of their small percentage experiments. Haven't
>> been able to reproduce it myself. Not clear whether it's just
>> wikipedia.org or other/all sites.
> Bence pointed to this explanation:
> http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2011/03/hide-sites-to-find-more-of-what-you.html
>
Thx. I know about the general blocking option but wanted to know if
anyone has seen other sites, besides Wikipedia, specifically called out too.


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Re: Is Google allowing users to block Wikipedia? [ In reply to ]
On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 10:00 PM, Kul Takanao Wadhwa
<kwadhwa@wikimedia.org>wrote:

> On 3/19/11 1:56 PM, Erik Moeller wrote:
> > 2011/3/19 Erik Moeller <erik@wikimedia.org>:
> >> Looks like it's one of their small percentage experiments. Haven't
> >> been able to reproduce it myself. Not clear whether it's just
> >> wikipedia.org or other/all sites.
> > Bence pointed to this explanation:
> >
> http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2011/03/hide-sites-to-find-more-of-what-you.html
> >
> Thx. I know about the general blocking option but wanted to know if
> anyone has seen other sites, besides Wikipedia, specifically called out
> too.
>
>
I haven't seen this feature in action yet, but if I understood how it works,
it gives the blocking option for the site you just visited (presuming that
it was a bad result and that's why you returned to the search page), that
way you wouldn't see other sites called out if you return from a Wikipedia
result, but you would if you choose some other result.
It is just "unlucky", that Wikipedia has 10M+ pages, so a simple block based
on the domain can go a huge way...

Best regards,
Bence



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Re: Is Google allowing users to block Wikipedia? [ In reply to ]
On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 2:30 AM, Kul Takanao Wadhwa
<kwadhwa@wikimedia.org>wrote:

> On 3/19/11 1:56 PM, Erik Moeller wrote:
> > 2011/3/19 Erik Moeller <erik@wikimedia.org>:
> >> Looks like it's one of their small percentage experiments. Haven't
> >> been able to reproduce it myself. Not clear whether it's just
> >> wikipedia.org or other/all sites.
> > Bence pointed to this explanation:
> >
> http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2011/03/hide-sites-to-find-more-of-what-you.html
> >
> Thx. I know about the general blocking option but wanted to know if
> anyone has seen other sites, besides Wikipedia, specifically called out
> too.
>
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I first thought it might have had something to do with google's new
search algorithm.

I thought a similar feature had been around for a while, to block results
from a particular site. There was a star option earlier to prioritize
results from a particular site, it seems to be a natural progression.

It seems to be a personalized search feature, not directly related to
Wikipedia visibility in search results.

Theo
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Re: Is Google allowing users to block Wikipedia? [ In reply to ]
On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 10:26 PM, Theo10011 <de10011@gmail.com> wrote:

> It seems to be a personalized search feature, not directly related to
> Wikipedia visibility in search results.

Two things:
1) before you actually come to this "feature", you'd have to go to the
Wikipedia page, and then back to Google. It does not appear by
default.
2) I can see how it could be harmful in that someone blocks a page
they don't like on Wikipedia and end up blocking Wikipedia altogether.
It then all depends on how easy it is to "unblock" Wikipedia. (this is
true of Wikipedia, but also any other website, actually, just, as
Bence pointed out, the potential for blocking is multiplied by the
number of times Wikipedia appears as first choice in your search.

One thing that might be worth telling Google would be to have some
kind of warning when one searches from something else entirely, that
would say "results are also present in one of the sites you blocked"
or something like that, so that the hurdle of looking into your
preferences is not barring people from even thinking about unblocking
the websites they've blocked because of one page.

Delphine


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Re: Is Google allowing users to block Wikipedia? [ In reply to ]
2011/3/20 Delphine Ménard <notafishz@gmail.com>

>
> One thing that might be worth telling Google would be to have some
> kind of warning when one searches from something else entirely, that
> would say "results are also present in one of the sites you blocked"
> or something like that, so that the hurdle of looking into your
> preferences is not barring people from even thinking about unblocking
> the websites they've blocked because of one page.
>
> Apparently they show a text like "2 blocked results are not shown, click to
view them" either at the top or the bottom of the results page depending on
the place of the blocked results.

Best regards,
Bence
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