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On Monday 09 April 2007, Ben Edwards wrote:
> Am thinking of going from .19 to .20. Does anyone know if the myth
> packages included in the distribution work. I have previously tried
> Ubuntu mythtv packages but they have been a bit incomplete/flaky.
I use the packages from dapper on my feisty frontends without any trouble.
The backend is dapper and is working fine too.


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On 09/04/07, Stef Coene <stef.coene@docum.org> wrote:
> On Monday 09 April 2007, Ben Edwards wrote:
> > Am thinking of going from .19 to .20. Does anyone know if the myth
> > packages included in the distribution work. I have previously tried
> > Ubuntu mythtv packages but they have been a bit incomplete/flaky.
> I use the packages from dapper on my feisty frontends without any trouble.
> The backend is dapper and is working fine too.

The reason I was asking was that the dapper packages were no good for
me, I was wondering if anything had changes.

I am using DVB-T and want to use mytharchive (whitch was not
included/working) in dapper.

Regards,
Ben

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On Monday 09 April 2007, Ben Edwards wrote:
> On 09/04/07, Stef Coene <stef.coene@docum.org> wrote:
> > On Monday 09 April 2007, Ben Edwards wrote:
> > > Am thinking of going from .19 to .20. Does anyone know if the myth
> > > packages included in the distribution work. I have previously tried
> > > Ubuntu mythtv packages but they have been a bit incomplete/flaky.
> >
> > I use the packages from dapper on my feisty frontends without any
> > trouble. The backend is dapper and is working fine too.
>
> The reason I was asking was that the dapper packages were no good for
> me, I was wondering if anything had changes.
>
> I am using DVB-T and want to use mytharchive (whitch was not
> included/working) in dapper.
I have a pvr500 in my backend and it is working fine.


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On 09/04/07, Stef Coene <stef.coene@docum.org> wrote:
> On Monday 09 April 2007, Ben Edwards wrote:
> > On 09/04/07, Stef Coene <stef.coene@docum.org> wrote:
> > > On Monday 09 April 2007, Ben Edwards wrote:
> > > > Am thinking of going from .19 to .20. Does anyone know if the myth
> > > > packages included in the distribution work. I have previously tried
> > > > Ubuntu mythtv packages but they have been a bit incomplete/flaky.
> > >
> > > I use the packages from dapper on my feisty frontends without any
> > > trouble. The backend is dapper and is working fine too.
> >
> > The reason I was asking was that the dapper packages were no good for
> > me, I was wondering if anything had changes.
> >
> > I am using DVB-T and want to use mytharchive (whitch was not
> > included/working) in dapper.
> I have a pvr500 in my backend and it is working fine.

Using Feisty?
>
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On Monday 09 April 2007, Ben Edwards wrote:
> On 09/04/07, Stef Coene <stef.coene@docum.org> wrote:
> > On Monday 09 April 2007, Ben Edwards wrote:
> > > On 09/04/07, Stef Coene <stef.coene@docum.org> wrote:
> > > > On Monday 09 April 2007, Ben Edwards wrote:
> > > > > Am thinking of going from .19 to .20. Does anyone know if the myth
> > > > > packages included in the distribution work. I have previously
> > > > > tried Ubuntu mythtv packages but they have been a bit
> > > > > incomplete/flaky.
> > > >
> > > > I use the packages from dapper on my feisty frontends without any
> > > > trouble. The backend is dapper and is working fine too.
> > >
> > > The reason I was asking was that the dapper packages were no good for
> > > me, I was wondering if anything had changes.
> > >
> > > I am using DVB-T and want to use mytharchive (whitch was not
> > > included/working) in dapper.
> >
> > I have a pvr500 in my backend and it is working fine.
>
> Using Feisty?
No, backend is still edgy (not dapper like I said in my previous post).


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Ben Edwards wrote:
> Am thinking of going from .19 to .20. Does anyone know if the myth
> packages included in the distribution work. I have previously tried
> Ubuntu mythtv packages but they have been a bit incomplete/flaky.

The details are here

http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=mythtv&searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all

Edgy uses 0.20-0.2 whilst feisty uses 0.20-svn20070122-0

I find that Ubuntu packages tend to improve with time and Myth has been
singled out as a high visibility project.

I would however wait until later in the month when Feisty officially
comes out of beta

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> Am thinking of going from .19 to .20. Does anyone know if the myth
> packages included in the distribution work. I have previously tried
> Ubuntu mythtv packages but they have been a bit incomplete/flaky.

I just set up a new frontend using the ubuntu-mythtv-frontend on Feisty.
It was way too easy.

I want to use it on my backend (which is currently edgy), but I am
running a "-fixes" release that I think actually fixes some database
insert/dodgy playback issues that is later than 20070122.

Are they going to release updates that follow the -fixes branch? If not,
I'll use feisty with a self-compiled build again. Either way, I'll be
running feisty this weekend.

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On 09/04/07, Tristan McCann <tristan@aquaagua.net> wrote:
> > Am thinking of going from .19 to .20. Does anyone know if the myth
> > packages included in the distribution work. I have previously tried
> > Ubuntu mythtv packages but they have been a bit incomplete/flaky.
>
> I just set up a new frontend using the ubuntu-mythtv-frontend on Feisty.
> It was way too easy.
>
> I want to use it on my backend (which is currently edgy), but I am
> running a "-fixes" release that I think actually fixes some database
> insert/dodgy playback issues that is later than 20070122.
>
> Are they going to release updates that follow the -fixes branch? If not,
> I'll use feisty with a self-compiled build again. Either way, I'll be
> running feisty this weekend.

Probably not. I don't think the package manager actually uses mythtv
in anger.

Ben

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Ben Edwards wrote:
> Am thinking of going from .19 to .20. Does anyone know if the myth
> packages included in the distribution work. I have previously tried
> Ubuntu mythtv packages but they have been a bit incomplete/flaky.
>
> Ben
>
I would wait until it is released later in the month however I can
heartily recommend Edgy as a good base for building SVN. It has been
working well for several months now.
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Hi Ben,

Since edgy release, I have been working with maintenance on the Ubuntu
packages.

I *do* use all the packages that I build on all of my frontends and
backends. They do indeed track the 0.20-fixes branch within reason. Due to
Ubuntu's release procedure, you won't commonly see updates between the 6
month releases unless something big needs to be updated.

Hold off until Feisty release to use the packages though. I have one more
set of changes coming in that should hopefully be the final resolution to
all of the DB issues people encounter due to group membership/misreading of
debconf dialogs and such. The version on the packages will be
0.20-svn20070122-0.0ubuntu5.

Regards,

Mario

On 4/9/07, Ben Edwards <funkytwig@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 09/04/07, Tristan McCann <tristan@aquaagua.net> wrote:
> > > Am thinking of going from .19 to .20. Does anyone know if the myth
> > > packages included in the distribution work. I have previously tried
> > > Ubuntu mythtv packages but they have been a bit incomplete/flaky.
> >
> > I just set up a new frontend using the ubuntu-mythtv-frontend on Feisty.
> > It was way too easy.
> >
> > I want to use it on my backend (which is currently edgy), but I am
> > running a "-fixes" release that I think actually fixes some database
> > insert/dodgy playback issues that is later than 20070122.
> >
> > Are they going to release updates that follow the -fixes branch? If not,
> > I'll use feisty with a self-compiled build again. Either way, I'll be
> > running feisty this weekend.
>
> Probably not. I don't think the package manager actually uses mythtv
> in anger.
>
> Ben
>
> > -Tristan
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> >
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On 09/04/07, Mario Limonciello <mario.mailing@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Ben,
>
> Since edgy release, I have been working with maintenance on the Ubuntu
> packages.
>
> I *do* use all the packages that I build on all of my frontends and
> backends. They do indeed track the 0.20-fixes branch within reason. Due to
> Ubuntu's release procedure, you won't commonly see updates between the 6
> month releases unless something big needs to be updated.
>
> Hold off until Feisty release to use the packages though. I have one more
> set of changes coming in that should hopefully be the final resolution to
> all of the DB issues people encounter due to group membership/misreading of
> debconf dialogs and such. The version on the packages will be
> 0.20-svn20070122-0.0ubuntu5.

Great. My info way for breezy, glad to c things have resolve themselves.

Ben

> Regards,
>
> Mario
>
>
> On 4/9/07, Ben Edwards <funkytwig@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 09/04/07, Tristan McCann <tristan@aquaagua.net > wrote:
> > > > Am thinking of going from .19 to .20. Does anyone know if the myth
> > > > packages included in the distribution work. I have previously tried
> > > > Ubuntu mythtv packages but they have been a bit incomplete/flaky.
> > >
> > > I just set up a new frontend using the ubuntu-mythtv-frontend on Feisty.
> > > It was way too easy.
> > >
> > > I want to use it on my backend (which is currently edgy), but I am
> > > running a "-fixes" release that I think actually fixes some database
> > > insert/dodgy playback issues that is later than 20070122.
> > >
> > > Are they going to release updates that follow the -fixes branch? If not,
> > > I'll use feisty with a self-compiled build again. Either way, I'll be
> > > running feisty this weekend.
> >
> > Probably not. I don't think the package manager actually uses mythtv
> > in anger.
> >
> > Ben
> >
> > > -Tristan
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> > >
> >
> >
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On 09/04/07, Mario Limonciello <mario.mailing@gmail.com> wrote:
...
> Hold off until Feisty release to use the packages though. I have one more
> set of changes coming in that should hopefully be the final resolution to
> all of the DB issues people encounter due to group membership/misreading of
> debconf dialogs and such. The version on the packages will be
> 0.20-svn20070122-0.0ubuntu5.
...
I thought Feisty was out. I am using it. The standard update
procedure found it.

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On 10/04/07, Mario Limonciello <mario.mailing@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Ben,
>
> Since edgy release, I have been working with maintenance on the Ubuntu
> packages.
>
> I *do* use all the packages that I build on all of my frontends and
> backends. They do indeed track the 0.20-fixes branch within reason. Due
> to Ubuntu's release procedure, you won't commonly see updates between the 6
> month releases unless something big needs to be updated.
>
> Hold off until Feisty release to use the packages though. I have one more
> set of changes coming in that should hopefully be the final resolution to
> all of the DB issues people encounter due to group membership/misreading of
> debconf dialogs and such. The version on the packages will be
> 0.20-svn20070122-0.0ubuntu5.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mario


Hi Mario,

Maybe you could help point me in the right direction...

I have been considering creating a .deb that is an "empty" (metal) package
that installs all the required development libraries for source compilation.

The other possibility would be to maintain a list of the package names that
are needed to compile, this could be a wiki article and could then be
maintained by the community.

I think the wiki is probably the best way to go as it can be updated easily
as trunk changes, eg the new taglib requirement for mythmusic.

The other part of the problem is the /etc/init.d/* scripts needed and others
scripts. I guess it would be best if we used the scripts that your *.debs
use if you don't mind.

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Cheers,

Roo.

On 10/04/07, Roo <roo.watt@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 10/04/07, Mario Limonciello <mario.mailing@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi Ben,
> >
> > Since edgy release, I have been working with maintenance on the Ubuntu
> packages.
> >
> > I *do* use all the packages that I build on all of my frontends and
> backends. They do indeed track the 0.20-fixes branch within reason. Due to
> Ubuntu's release procedure, you won't commonly see updates between the 6
> month releases unless something big needs to be updated.
> >
> > Hold off until Feisty release to use the packages though. I have one more
> set of changes coming in that should hopefully be the final resolution to
> all of the DB issues people encounter due to group membership/misreading of
> debconf dialogs and such. The version on the packages will be
> 0.20-svn20070122-0.0ubuntu5.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Mario
>
> Hi Mario,
>
> Maybe you could help point me in the right direction...
>
> I have been considering creating a .deb that is an "empty" (metal) package
> that installs all the required development libraries for source compilation.
>
> The other possibility would be to maintain a list of the package names that
> are needed to compile, this could be a wiki article and could then be
> maintained by the community.

apt-get build-dep mythtv

I actually use this even when building from source and it works great.

Ben

> I think the wiki is probably the best way to go as it can be updated easily
> as trunk changes, eg the new taglib requirement for mythmusic.
>
> The other part of the problem is the /etc/init.d/* scripts needed and others
> scripts. I guess it would be best if we used the scripts that your *.debs
> use if you don't mind.
>
> Any thoughts would be appreciated.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Roo.
>
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> I actually use this even when building from source and it works great.

What I actually mean is I use it for building from .tar or cvs source
and it works great.
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On 10/04/07, Ben Edwards <funkytwig@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> apt-get build-dep mythtv
>
> I actually use this even when building from source and it works great.
>
> Ben
>


Thanks Ben!

My myth FE/BE is currently a Gentoo box, guess it is nice when things can be
this easy. Might do the change over this week.

Cheers.

On 10/04/07, Roo <roo.watt@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 10/04/07, Ben Edwards <funkytwig@gmail.com> wrote:
> > apt-get build-dep mythtv
> >
> > I actually use this even when building from source and it works great.
> >
> > Ben
> >
>
>
> Thanks Ben!
>
> My myth FE/BE is currently a Gentoo box, guess it is nice when things can be
> this easy. Might do the change over this week.

I did use gentoo for a bit. I don't remember any problems with
dependencies for building. I seem to remember it all worked well.

I Just like the way almost everything (I have tried) worked out of the
box with Ubuntu and if it does not the next release seams to fix it.

Ben

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Roo,

I have toyed with the idea of doing another repository that will do nightly
svn checkouts and builds, but then that introduces interoperability problems
if people start to mix and match, or decide that svn isn't stable enough for
them.

Before I think too much more into the design required for nightly svn builds
into debs, what are you looking out of building from source? The fact of
compiling towards a particular processor, or just the newer packages? If
the latter, I'll think more about the process necessary. If the former,
then there is little that will be doable with regard to deb generation.

Mario

On 4/9/07, Roo <roo.watt@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 10/04/07, Mario Limonciello <mario.mailing@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Ben,
> >
> > Since edgy release, I have been working with maintenance on the Ubuntu
> > packages.
> >
> > I *do* use all the packages that I build on all of my frontends and
> > backends. They do indeed track the 0.20-fixes branch within reason.
> > Due to Ubuntu's release procedure, you won't commonly see updates between
> > the 6 month releases unless something big needs to be updated.
> >
> > Hold off until Feisty release to use the packages though. I have one
> > more set of changes coming in that should hopefully be the final resolution
> > to all of the DB issues people encounter due to group membership/misreading
> > of debconf dialogs and such. The version on the packages will be
> > 0.20-svn20070122-0.0ubuntu5.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Mario
>
>
> Hi Mario,
>
> Maybe you could help point me in the right direction...
>
> I have been considering creating a .deb that is an "empty" (metal) package
> that installs all the required development libraries for source compilation.
>
>
> The other possibility would be to maintain a list of the package names
> that are needed to compile, this could be a wiki article and could then be
> maintained by the community.
>
> I think the wiki is probably the best way to go as it can be updated
> easily as trunk changes, eg the new taglib requirement for mythmusic.
>
> The other part of the problem is the /etc/init.d/* scripts needed and
> others scripts. I guess it would be best if we used the scripts that your
> *.debs use if you don't mind.
>
> Any thoughts would be appreciated.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Roo.
>
> _______________________________________________
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>
>

> I have toyed with the idea of doing another repository that will do
> nightly svn checkouts and builds, but then that introduces
> interoperability problems if people start to mix and match, or decide
> that svn isn't stable enough for them.
>
> Before I think too much more into the design required for nightly svn
> builds into debs, what are you looking out of building from source?
> The fact of compiling towards a particular processor, or just the
> newer packages? If the latter, I'll think more about the process
> necessary. If the former, then there is little that will be doable
> with regard to deb generation.

For me, it is necessary to track the -fixes branch to within a month, at
least recently. I believe that Axel Thimm's Fedora and RHEL package
repository follows -fixes, which is one reason why Fedora is such a
popular MythTV distribution.

The thing that bit me after my Edgy install with the Ubuntu Mythtv
packages is when I got an HD Homerun to play around with, those debs did
not have the ability to tune QAM, because that was committed to the
-fixes branch after those packages were created. The Edgy MythTV
packages are really stale compared to -fixes. I actually expected that
there would be a 3rd party repository for Ubuntu and MythTV due to the
current popularity of Ubuntu, but when there wasn't, I began tracking
-fixes myself from source. Along the way, other fixes that were really
nice to have (such as changes to the way the database inserts were
executed, which eliminated a lot of recording freezes) were committed to
-fixes.

I have no urge to have packages of SVN Trunk, however. I like refinement
more than features.

-Tristan McCann
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Tristan,

I understand the desires here better for 0.20-fixes to be tracked a little
bit closer. Once Feisty is released, I have to sort out a bit of a mess
with regards to webhosting, but I should be able to set up a weekly cron job
that will build from the "latest" 0.20-fixes into debs on that repo for
those that need/want it inbetween releases. I'll post back to the list with
more information about this when its properly organized. As for that QAM
fix, I'll make sure that it gets into the feisty packages before release
next week.

Mario

On 4/10/07, Tristan McCann <tristan@aquaagua.net> wrote:
>
> > I have toyed with the idea of doing another repository that will do
> > nightly svn checkouts and builds, but then that introduces
> > interoperability problems if people start to mix and match, or decide
> > that svn isn't stable enough for them.
> >
> > Before I think too much more into the design required for nightly svn
> > builds into debs, what are you looking out of building from source?
> > The fact of compiling towards a particular processor, or just the
> > newer packages? If the latter, I'll think more about the process
> > necessary. If the former, then there is little that will be doable
> > with regard to deb generation.
>
> For me, it is necessary to track the -fixes branch to within a month, at
> least recently. I believe that Axel Thimm's Fedora and RHEL package
> repository follows -fixes, which is one reason why Fedora is such a
> popular MythTV distribution.
>
> The thing that bit me after my Edgy install with the Ubuntu Mythtv
> packages is when I got an HD Homerun to play around with, those debs did
> not have the ability to tune QAM, because that was committed to the
> -fixes branch after those packages were created. The Edgy MythTV
> packages are really stale compared to -fixes. I actually expected that
> there would be a 3rd party repository for Ubuntu and MythTV due to the
> current popularity of Ubuntu, but when there wasn't, I began tracking
> -fixes myself from source. Along the way, other fixes that were really
> nice to have (such as changes to the way the database inserts were
> executed, which eliminated a lot of recording freezes) were committed to
> -fixes.
>
> I have no urge to have packages of SVN Trunk, however. I like refinement
> more than features.
>
> -Tristan McCann
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> I understand the desires here better for 0.20-fixes to be tracked a
> little bit closer. Once Feisty is released, I have to sort out a bit
> of a mess with regards to webhosting, but I should be able to set up
> a weekly cron job that will build from the "latest" 0.20-fixes into
> debs on that repo for those that need/want it inbetween releases.
> I'll post back to the list with more information about this when its
> properly organized. As for that QAM fix, I'll make sure that it gets
> into the feisty packages before release next week.

Mario,

I think that QAM fix is in the Feisty packages, I was just relaying my
experiences with the stock Edgy packages, which did not have that fix.

Thanks!

-Tristan
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Tristan,

I added the fix (From Feb) in my last debdiff today.

I have discussed it with a few others on the team, and we will have a
repository prepared after Feisty that will automatically perform a checkout
from 0.20-fixes and build weekly into proper debs for anyone interested in
tracking 0.20-fixes more closely.

I'll announce more information regarding it after its been prepared.

Regards,

Mario

On 4/10/07, Tristan McCann <tristan@aquaagua.net> wrote:
>
> > I understand the desires here better for 0.20-fixes to be tracked a
> > little bit closer. Once Feisty is released, I have to sort out a bit
> > of a mess with regards to webhosting, but I should be able to set up
> > a weekly cron job that will build from the "latest" 0.20-fixes into
> > debs on that repo for those that need/want it inbetween releases.
> > I'll post back to the list with more information about this when its
> > properly organized. As for that QAM fix, I'll make sure that it gets
> > into the feisty packages before release next week.
>
> Mario,
>
> I think that QAM fix is in the Feisty packages, I was just relaying my
> experiences with the stock Edgy packages, which did not have that fix.
>
> Thanks!
>
> -Tristan
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On 11/04/07, Mario Limonciello <mario.mailing@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Roo,
>
> I have toyed with the idea of doing another repository that will do
> nightly svn checkouts and builds, but then that introduces interoperability
> problems if people start to mix and match, or decide that svn isn't stable
> enough for them.
>
> Before I think too much more into the design required for nightly svn
> builds into debs, what are you looking out of building from source? The
> fact of compiling towards a particular processor, or just the newer
> packages? If the latter, I'll think more about the process necessary. If
> the former, then there is little that will be doable with regard to deb
> generation.
>
> Mario
>


Hi Mario,

Although I have currently enabled processor optimisations that is not the
underlying reason I like to use trunk. Essentially I want the features
available in trunk and like to be able to help test. eg. With the upcoming
record multiple muxes from a single transport stream, I would like to be
able to help test the functionality of this code and offer any feedback I
can.

What I was originally thinking was of a meta package to help those that want
to compile from source to get their environment setup as quickly/easily as
possible. The actual "configure, qmake, make, make install" really isn't
that time consuming.

It would be interesting to hear from some of the devs their thoughts, do
they think that nightly SVN builds (and deb packaging) would help or hinder
their development process.

Cheers,

Roo.

Mario Limonciello wrote:

> I have discussed it with a few others on the team, and we will have a
> repository prepared after Feisty that will automatically perform a
> checkout from 0.20-fixes and build weekly into proper debs for anyone
> interested in tracking 0.20-fixes more closely.

That's excellent news, Mario, thank you. I've been using the edgy myth
packages, but have been planning to build 0.20-fixes from SVN to get any recent
patches (hopefully to fix a stability problem I've been having). Now I'll
probably just upgrade to feisty next week.

Will this include x86_64 packages, or just x86? And will this be in the
official feisty multiverse packages, or a different repository?

Again, thanks for your support of myth under ubuntu!

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