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On 2/23/07, James Pifer <jep@obrien-pifer.com> wrote:
>
> I've been wanting to setup a separate frontend instead of running my
> main frontend on my backend machine. My problem has always been the
> remote control. With my last PVR150 I bought, it came with some type of
> IR receiver, or possibly an IR blaster that a receiver plugs into.(?) I
> could provide a picture...
>
> Anyway, the back of it says it's an "acer Model No. MCEIR-210". I also
> have the IR receiver to plug into it.


This is the Windows MCE receiver.

Anyone know if I can use these to setup lirc for use with MythTV?
> Anyone already doing with this device?


You use either the mceusb or mceusb2 driver.

The other issue is that the remote that came with this setup uses RC6,
> but I need it to work with the older hauppaugge remotes, which I think
> are RC5.


Sorry, you're out of luck there. That receiver is only meant to work with
MCE remotes and MCE IR keyboards.

Carl Fongheiser

Will a harmony remote work with this reciever? I don't see why it wouldn't?

On 2/23/07, Carl Fongheiser <carlfongheiser@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 2/23/07, James Pifer <jep@obrien-pifer.com> wrote:
> >
> > I've been wanting to setup a separate frontend instead of running my
> > main frontend on my backend machine. My problem has always been the
> > remote control. With my last PVR150 I bought, it came with some type of
> > IR receiver, or possibly an IR blaster that a receiver plugs into.(?) I
> > could provide a picture...
> >
> > Anyway, the back of it says it's an "acer Model No. MCEIR-210". I also
> > have the IR receiver to plug into it.
>
>
> This is the Windows MCE receiver.
>
>
> Anyone know if I can use these to setup lirc for use with MythTV?
> > Anyone already doing with this device?
>
>
> You use either the mceusb or mceusb2 driver.
>
>
> The other issue is that the remote that came with this setup uses RC6,
> > but I need it to work with the older hauppaugge remotes, which I think
> > are RC5.
>
>
> Sorry, you're out of luck there. That receiver is only meant to work with
> MCE remotes and MCE IR keyboards.
>
> Carl Fongheiser
>
>
>
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On 2/23/07, Greg Kutzbach <greg.kutzbach@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Will a harmony remote work with this reciever? I don't see why it
> wouldn't?


Sure. A Harmony remote can send the MCE IR commands. So can some
One-For-All remotes.

Carl Fongheiser

> Sorry, you're out of luck there. That receiver is only meant to work
> with MCE remotes and MCE IR keyboards.
>
> Carl Fongheiser
>

Damn, that stinks. Thanks for the info. Guess I'm back to trying to find
an inexpensive IR receiver that works with the grey hauppaugge remotes.

Thanks,
James

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On 2/23/07, James Pifer <jep@obrien-pifer.com> wrote:

> Damn, that stinks. Thanks for the info. Guess I'm back to trying to find
> an inexpensive IR receiver that works with the grey hauppaugge remotes.


Is there some reason you don't want to use the MCE remote? It's a pretty
nice remote.

Otherwise, you can get one of the cheap serial receivers. There's a guy who
sells them for $12.75, if you don't want to build it yourself.

Carl Fongheiser

> Otherwise, you can get one of the cheap serial receivers. There's a
> guy who sells them for $12.75, if you don't want to build it yourself.
>
> Carl Fongheiser


Yes, I use LeapFrog for sending the Audio/Video/IR to several TV's in
different rooms in the house. So I have a grey remote in each room and I
only have one of the MCE remotes.

I have to agree, it seems like a nice remote, and I should probably sell
it since it's just sitting here in the original packaging. But most
likely I'll probably just keep it for a while.

Don't suppose you know where to find this guy off the top of your head?
(who sells the serial receiver for $12.75)

Thanks,
James


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Also, don't forget about the JP1 project. Allows you to reprogram any
remote with a JP1 interface. Pretty cool. (google it)

-Greg

On 2/23/07, Carl Fongheiser <carlfongheiser@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2/23/07, Greg Kutzbach <greg.kutzbach@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Will a harmony remote work with this reciever? I don't see why it
> wouldn't?
>
> Sure. A Harmony remote can send the MCE IR commands. So can some
> One-For-All remotes.
>
> Carl Fongheiser
>
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On 2/23/07, James Pifer <jep@obrien-pifer.com> wrote:
> Don't suppose you know where to find this guy off the top of your head?
> (who sells the serial receiver for $12.75)

http://www.irblaster.info/receiver.html


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On 2/23/07, John P Poet <jppoet@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2/23/07, James Pifer <jep@obrien-pifer.com> wrote:
> > Don't suppose you know where to find this guy off the top of your head?
> > (who sells the serial receiver for $12.75)
>
> http://www.irblaster.info/receiver.html
>
>
> John
> _______________________________________________

I have a few of these that I've ordered over the course of a year or
so. But with new motherboards coming out, there are fewer external
serial ports on motherboards. In addition, the ones that do still
exist (and are a good choice for a mythtv frontend) have only 1
(external). If I need to connect an IR Blaster (serial) to the system
as well, then I need 2 serial ports (right?). So my choices are to
get a breakout cable and bracket (ok choice, but uses a PCI I/O slot
and on a SFF case these are usually in short supply anyway). Or, to
go USB on the IR Receiver. So far, my quest for USB IR Receivers is
quite limited or costly. The IR Receiver that comes with the
StreamZap remotes works good, but it seems like a waste of money and a
remote when all I need is the receiver (and I can get one for 12.75).
Other options send me into the $40+ range, blowing the 12.75 out of
the water.

To add to all of that, new motherboards (the ones with the diminishing
serial ports) seem to have an increasing number of external USB ports
available; so moving to USB for both an IR receiver and an IR blaster
makes a lot of sense. But, the product that is available to do this
(the USBUIRT) isn't exactly cheap when compared to my existing
options. So, my ultimate question is, where's the competition, and
when will we see 'cheap' USB options?

Thanks!

-Chad
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On 2/24/07, Chad <masterclc@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2/23/07, John P Poet <jppoet@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 2/23/07, James Pifer <jep@obrien-pifer.com> wrote:
> > > Don't suppose you know where to find this guy off the top of your head?
> > > (who sells the serial receiver for $12.75)
> >
> > http://www.irblaster.info/receiver.html
> >
> >
> > John
> > _______________________________________________
>
> I have a few of these that I've ordered over the course of a year or
> so. But with new motherboards coming out, there are fewer external
> serial ports on motherboards. In addition, the ones that do still
> exist (and are a good choice for a mythtv frontend) have only 1
> (external). If I need to connect an IR Blaster (serial) to the system
> as well, then I need 2 serial ports (right?).


Mike (at irblaster.info), has this in his FAQ:

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Can I use a blaster and receiver on 1 serial port?

Yes, you can use an ir blaster and ir receiver on a signel serial
port, however at this time we don't have any official products to do
this. Some people have bought an ir blaster and receiver and hacked
them to one DB9 connector. We have also shipped a few splitter devices
for beta testing and hope to offer them to the general pubilc soon.
Conact us if you are interested in learning more about this testing.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


John
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On Fri, Feb 23, 2007 at 08:00:19PM -0500, James Pifer wrote:

> > Otherwise, you can get one of the cheap serial receivers. There's a
> > guy who sells them for $12.75, if you don't want to build it yourself.

> Yes, I use LeapFrog for sending the Audio/Video/IR to several TV's in
> different rooms in the house. So I have a grey remote in each room and I
> only have one of the MCE remotes.

I've been using a StreamZap USB IR receiver with a One For All universal
remote that I taught grey Hauppauge codes from the remote that came with
my old PVR-350 card. Since the serial IR receivers are cheaper (and don't
come with the StreamZap remote that you likely don't want), this probably
won't be of much help. Anyhow, just in case, here's my LIRC config:

http://www.tux.org/~peterw/linux/lircd.conf.hauppauge-streamzap

-Peter

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On Friday 23 February 2007, Chad wrote:
> On 2/23/07, John P Poet <jppoet@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 2/23/07, James Pifer <jep@obrien-pifer.com> wrote:
> > > Don't suppose you know where to find this guy off the top of your head?
> > > (who sells the serial receiver for $12.75)
> >
> > http://www.irblaster.info/receiver.html
> >
> >
> > John
> > _______________________________________________
>
> I have a few of these that I've ordered over the course of a year or
> so. But with new motherboards coming out, there are fewer external
> serial ports on motherboards. In addition, the ones that do still
> exist (and are a good choice for a mythtv frontend) have only 1
> (external). If I need to connect an IR Blaster (serial) to the system
> as well, then I need 2 serial ports (right?). So my choices are to
> get a breakout cable and bracket (ok choice, but uses a PCI I/O slot
> and on a SFF case these are usually in short supply anyway). Or, to
> go USB on the IR Receiver. So far, my quest for USB IR Receivers is
> quite limited or costly. The IR Receiver that comes with the
> StreamZap remotes works good, but it seems like a waste of money and a
> remote when all I need is the receiver (and I can get one for 12.75).
> Other options send me into the $40+ range, blowing the 12.75 out of
> the water.
>
> To add to all of that, new motherboards (the ones with the diminishing
> serial ports) seem to have an increasing number of external USB ports
> available; so moving to USB for both an IR receiver and an IR blaster
> makes a lot of sense. But, the product that is available to do this
> (the USBUIRT) isn't exactly cheap when compared to my existing
> options. So, my ultimate question is, where's the competition, and
> when will we see 'cheap' USB options?
>
> Thanks!
>
> -Chad

If you are not using the Mic input of your soundcard, you can solve the
problem for about $3.-

Get the IR receiver chip from RadioShack. Wire ground to ground, signal out to
Mic in, and Vcc to the Mic power lead. Use the lirc-alsa driver, select the
Mic capture, and go...




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> If you are not using the Mic input of your soundcard, you can solve the
> problem for about $3.-
>
> Get the IR receiver chip from RadioShack. Wire ground to ground, signal out to
> Mic in, and Vcc to the Mic power lead. Use the lirc-alsa driver, select the
> Mic capture, and go...

Now that sounds like a great idea... I'm a soldering moron though.
Maybe I'll see if I can find someone locally who is well versed in the
art of soldering ;)

Do you know offhand if this could be used as an IR Blaster option as well?

Thanks!

-Chad
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On Saturday 24 February 2007, Chad wrote:
> > If you are not using the Mic input of your soundcard, you can solve the
> > problem for about $3.-
> >
> > Get the IR receiver chip from RadioShack. Wire ground to ground, signal
> > out to Mic in, and Vcc to the Mic power lead. Use the lirc-alsa driver,
> > select the Mic capture, and go...
>
> Now that sounds like a great idea... I'm a soldering moron though.
> Maybe I'll see if I can find someone locally who is well versed in the
> art of soldering ;)
>
> Do you know offhand if this could be used as an IR Blaster option as well?
>
> Thanks!
>
> -Chad

I have not done it, but it should work.
You should be able to use this like a 'learning' remote. Record the incoming
signal, and play it back when needed.

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