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On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 8:24 AM, Nils Faerber
<nils.faerber@kernelconcepts.de> wrote:
> I just read on a German newsticker that a PR1.3 is planned, excellent!
> One of the major enhancements will be that it can dual-boot Maemo and
> MeeGo, pretty cool.

Check out Harri Hakulinen's blog which contains some mention about it,
I think it was the source for the news spread around the news sites:
http://meego.com/community/blogs/harrihakulinen/2010/meego-calling-n900

I guess PR1.3 kernel will support kexec and then we can use bootmenu
to run MeeGo from our SD card similar to NITDroid installation - yeah,
maybe we can have tri-boot maemo/meego/nitdroid :) :) :)

> I just hope that they also finally "fix" Nokia-Maps enabling
> turn-by-turn navigation... all other Symbian smartphones have it by now
> just the "flagship" of next-generation smartphones does not... pretty
> disappointing.

I seriously doubt it. And N900 as "flagship" is a title given it by
us, not by Nokia. I would say flagship was N97 and now N8. Some blog
even said recently that the first MeeGo-Harmattan device won't have
turn-by-turn navigation in Maps, either.

Of course Nokia won't officially tell anyone anything about future
plans with their closed software (Except that MeeGo-Harmattan won't
officially be supported on N900...) so all we can do is guess and wait
and hope.
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On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 8:24 AM, Nils Faerber
<nils.faerber@kernelconcepts.de> wrote:
> Hi!
> I just read on a German newsticker that a PR1.3 is planned, excellent!
> One of the major enhancements will be that it can dual-boot Maemo and
> MeeGo, pretty cool.

PR 1.3 version 20.2010.36-2 is now available.

:)
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Various questions:

Who has installed this? Did you flash or go OTA?

Anyone using this with power-kernel? Is power-kernel compatible with 1.3?

What sort of multi-boot capabilities are there? I currently use the
multi-boot package to boot between Maemo and Android. Is 1.3 compatible
with multi-boot?

If you've done the upgrade, can you run
uname -a
and paste what the output says?

Aldon

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> [mailto:maemo-users-bounces@maemo.org]On Behalf Of Nils Faerber
> Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 10:50 AM
> To: maemo-users@maemo.org
> Subject: Re: PR1.3 coming!
>
>
> Am 25.10.2010 16:43, schrieb Paul Hartman:
> > On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 8:24 AM, Nils Faerber
> > <nils.faerber@kernelconcepts.de> wrote:
> >> Hi!
> >> I just read on a German newsticker that a PR1.3 is planned, excellent!
> >> One of the major enhancements will be that it can dual-boot Maemo and
> >> MeeGo, pretty cool.
> >
> > PR 1.3 version 20.2010.36-2 is now available.
> >
> > :)
>
> Yup, just upgraded - from a first look I cannot discover any big news so
> I assume most changes are rather "under the hood".
> I am now looking forward for a first dual-boot guide for Maemo/MeeGo.
>
> Cheers
> nils
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Am 25.10.2010 16:43, schrieb Paul Hartman:
> On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 8:24 AM, Nils Faerber
> <nils.faerber@kernelconcepts.de> wrote:
>> Hi!
>> I just read on a German newsticker that a PR1.3 is planned, excellent!
>> One of the major enhancements will be that it can dual-boot Maemo and
>> MeeGo, pretty cool.
>
> PR 1.3 version 20.2010.36-2 is now available.
>
> :)

Yup, just upgraded - from a first look I cannot discover any big news so
I assume most changes are rather "under the hood".
I am now looking forward for a first dual-boot guide for Maemo/MeeGo.

Cheers
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On Monday 25 October 2010 16:45:54 Aldon Hynes wrote:
> Who has installed this? Did you flash or go OTA?
I flashed it.

> If you've done the upgrade, can you run
> uname -a
> and paste what the output says?
~ $ uname -a
Linux Nokia-N900 2.6.28-omap1 #1 PREEMPT Fri Aug 6 11:50:00 EEST 2010 armv71
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I tried doing an OTA upgrade. It said I had conflicts. I started removing
conflicts, and then it went out and removed just about the whole rootfs.
So, I've just flashed it and am starting to rebuild everything. Of course,
now I have lots of free space!

Aldon

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> Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 12:32 PM
> To: maemo-users@maemo.org
> Subject: Re: PR1.3 coming!
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Aldon Hynes
> <Aldon.Hynes@orient-lodge.com> wrote:
> > Various questions:
> >
> > Who has installed this?  Did you flash or go OTA?
>
> I'm trying to install OTA, but I don't have enough free rootfs
> space... and of course it does not tell me how much it wants me to
> have, only that I don't have enough. Some things never change! :(
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I just installed the update and cant really se any changes, have anyone
found a good changelog?

2010/10/25 Andrea Scarpino <andrea@archlinux.org>

> On Monday 25 October 2010 16:45:54 Aldon Hynes wrote:
> > Who has installed this? Did you flash or go OTA?
> I flashed it.
>
> > If you've done the upgrade, can you run
> > uname -a
> > and paste what the output says?
> ~ $ uname -a
> Linux Nokia-N900 2.6.28-omap1 #1 PREEMPT Fri Aug 6 11:50:00 EEST 2010
> armv71
> unknown
>
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On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Aldon Hynes
<Aldon.Hynes@orient-lodge.com> wrote:
> Various questions:
>
> Who has installed this?  Did you flash or go OTA?

I'm trying to install OTA, but I don't have enough free rootfs
space... and of course it does not tell me how much it wants me to
have, only that I don't have enough. Some things never change! :(
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On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 11:32 AM, Paul Hartman
<paul.hartman+maemo@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Aldon Hynes
> <Aldon.Hynes@orient-lodge.com> wrote:
>> Various questions:
>>
>> Who has installed this?  Did you flash or go OTA?
>
> I'm trying to install OTA, but I don't have enough free rootfs
> space... and of course it does not tell me how much it wants me to
> have, only that I don't have enough. Some things never change! :(

Got up to 36.6M free rootfs and now it appears to be happy. And so am I. :)
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On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 11:23 AM, Aldon Hynes
<Aldon.Hynes@orient-lodge.com> wrote:
> I tried doing an OTA upgrade.  It said I had conflicts.  I started removing
> conflicts, and then it went out and removed just about the whole rootfs.
> So, I've just flashed it and am starting to rebuild everything.  Of course,
> now I have lots of free space!

Ouch! I always do "apt-get -s remove package" so I can see what it
wants to do before actually letting it do anything. Not that it does
any good for you by telling you this now. :)

I had to remove Healthcheck, GLTron, CloudGPS and Brainparty in order
to resolve my conflicts.

Download was moving at a glacial pace, and I'm about to leave, so I
cancelled. I will try again later today. Good luck.
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On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Linus <linus.wallgren@gmail.com> wrote:
> I just installed the update and cant really se any changes, have anyone
> found a good changelog?

Officially:

Ovi Suite Support
Ovi Music Support
Lots of bugfixes/performance improvements

If you do an advanced search on bugs.maemo.org with the new version as
target, and status as fixed/resolved you can see some of the public
bugs which were fixed.
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Am Montag, den 25.10.2010, 18:31 +0200 schrieb Linus:
> I just installed the update and cant really se any changes, have
> anyone found a good changelog?

The list of public bug reports that have been fixed for PR1.3 is
available from http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo_5/PR1.3 .

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Am Montag, den 25.10.2010, 11:32 -0500 schrieb Paul Hartman:
> I'm trying to install OTA, but I don't have enough free rootfs
> space... and of course it does not tell me how much it wants me to
> have, only that I don't have enough. Some things never change! :(

I assume that you did file a bug report (URL please?) to get it
displayed, right?

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On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Andre Klapper <aklapper@openismus.com> wrote:
> Am Montag, den 25.10.2010, 11:32 -0500 schrieb Paul Hartman:
>> I'm trying to install OTA, but I don't have enough free rootfs
>> space... and of course it does not tell me how much it wants me to
>> have, only that I don't have enough. Some things never change! :(
>
> I assume that you did file a bug report (URL please?) to get it
> displayed, right?

I absolutely did not. :) In fact I didn't think of that idea until
writing that...

My "some things never change" was referring to my bad luck of having
insufficient rootfs freespace as I have had in every PR so far, not
the lack of detail in the message.

But I think you have a good idea (as usual) to file an enhancement
request about the message. So I did it:
https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11448

BTW Andre, thanks again for all of your work in the Maemo bugzilla and
community!
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On 25 October 2010 15:43, Paul Hartman
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> wrote:

> PR 1.3 version 20.2010.36-2 is now available.
>

I still can't see PR1.3 in my App Manager. I have UK variant (.203), tough,
so I reckon I'd need to wait another 4-6 weeks, agh. :| Anyone else with
.203 variant already upgraded?

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Am 25.10.2010 22:15, schrieb Paul Hartman:
> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Andre Klapper<aklapper@openismus.com> wrote:
>> Am Montag, den 25.10.2010, 11:32 -0500 schrieb Paul Hartman:
>>> I'm trying to install OTA, but I don't have enough free rootfs
>>> space... and of course it does not tell me how much it wants me to
>>> have, only that I don't have enough. Some things never change! :(
>>
>> I assume that you did file a bug report (URL please?) to get it
>> displayed, right?
>
> I absolutely did not. :) In fact I didn't think of that idea until
> writing that...
>
> My "some things never change" was referring to my bad luck of having
> insufficient rootfs freespace as I have had in every PR so far, not
> the lack of detail in the message.
>
> But I think you have a good idea (as usual) to file an enhancement
> request about the message. So I did it:
> https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11448
>
> BTW Andre, thanks again for all of your work in the Maemo bugzilla and
> community!

I had expected this to happen at least after many of us hat trouble with
rootfs space when updating to PR1.2. Hope it gets fixed!

CC'ed myself. There's no possibility to vote for bugs in maemo bugzilla,
or am I wrong?

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Am Montag, den 25.10.2010, 23:18 +0200 schrieb Tanuva:
> I had expected this to happen at least after many of us hat trouble with
> rootfs space when updating to PR1.2. Hope it gets fixed!

Assuming that it requires string changes and updated translations I
wouldn't bet on it as Nokia considers the Maemo5 User Interface stable.

> CC'ed myself. There's no possibility to vote for bugs in maemo bugzilla,
> or am I wrong?

The possibility exists, but is very shy and hence hidden.
Look out for the "Vote for this bug" link. ;-)

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On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 4:18 PM, Tanuva <tanuva@googlemail.com> wrote:
> CC'ed myself. There's no possibility to vote for bugs in maemo bugzilla, or
> am I wrong?

There is a link "Vote for this bug" above the "Additional comments" box.
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On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Aldon Hynes
<Aldon.Hynes@orient-lodge.com> wrote:
> Various questions:

I know you've already gone the flasher route, but I'll answer for the
sake of others who may be interested in your questions.

> Who has installed this?  Did you flash or go OTA?

OTA. Had to remove conflicts and free up rootfs space (temporarily
moved kernel-power's modules to the eMMC, that gained about 7M), then
I was good to go.

After the upgrade, rootfs space remaining is the same as when I had
PR1.2. So that's good.

> Anyone using this with power-kernel?  Is power-kernel compatible with 1.3?
>
> What sort of multi-boot capabilities are there?  I currently use the
> multi-boot package to boot between Maemo and Android.  Is 1.3 compatible
> with multi-boot?

I was using multiboot and kernel-power along with nitrdroid. PR1.3 did
not touch multiboot. I rebooted into stock kernel before installing
the OTA update.

After installing PR1.3, multiboot still works, power-kernel still
works, nitdroid still works. (I did not need to reinstall power-kernel
as I would have if I were not using multiboot)

> If you've done the upgrade, can you run
> uname -a
> and paste what the output says?

Same kernel version as before, but with an August build date.
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-[ Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 10:15:15PM +0100, Dawid Lorenz ]----
> I still can't see PR1.3 in my App Manager. I have UK variant (.203), tough,
> so I reckon I'd need to wait another 4-6 weeks, agh. :| Anyone else with
> .203 variant already upgraded?

Cannot see PR1.3 from here neither, although I use the global variant.
So I'm going to download+flash instead.

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Hi

I am from UK, till today i have not received any OTA update, not able
to find update from nokia software update, OVI application. Please
help me, how to update new release.

Regards
Kiran.

On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 8:43 AM, Cedric Cellier <rixed@happyleptic.org> wrote:
> -[ Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 10:15:15PM +0100, Dawid Lorenz ]----
>> I still can't see PR1.3 in my App Manager. I have UK variant (.203), tough,
>> so I reckon I'd need to wait another 4-6 weeks, agh. :| Anyone else with
>> .203 variant already upgraded?
>
> Cannot see PR1.3 from here neither, although I use the global variant.
> So I'm going to download+flash instead.
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Am Dienstag, den 26.10.2010, 15:00 +0100 schrieb Kiran:
> I am from UK, till today i have not received any OTA update, not able
> to find update from nokia software update, OVI application. Please
> help me, how to update new release.

There's not much to help except for waiting for Nokia to provide it
for .203.

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Hi folks,

On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 10:45:54 -0400
"Aldon Hynes" <Aldon.Hynes@Orient-Lodge.com> wrote:

> Who has installed this? Did you flash or go OTA?

None of these methods.
I've use handy apt-get to upgrade. (apt-get dist-upgrade)

> Anyone using this with power-kernel? Is power-kernel compatible with
> 1.3?

Could boot into power-kernel but don't have a use of it anymore because
the improvements of performance of the global system are immense.


The only thing what makes me a little bit perplex is the fact that the
system-info-tool still displays Version 10.2010.19-1.
But i couldn't care less ...

Greetings
Olli
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Oliver Beck wrote:
> The only thing what makes me a little bit perplex is the fact that the
> system-info-tool still displays Version 10.2010.19-1.
> But i couldn't care less ...

In my case it changed after rebooting the device.


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