On Apr 21, 2010, at 2:51 PM, Steve Holdoway wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-04-22 at 09:07 +1200, Spiro Harvey wrote:
>
>> But the distro are the ones who gave you outdated unsupported
>> software.
>> Had they provided you with a newer package, you wouldn't have had
>> this
>> problem.
> Spiro, you're missing the point of a distro completely. That is to
> provide a functionally static platform for people to use and release
> to.
Funny, every distro I have used has had numerous updates till it
reached EOL. Did I believe updates stopped because no new
vulnerabilities exist in the distro? Of course not.
> From that point on, only security patches are released. The fact that
> 0.94.x was current when debian lenny was released means that it should
> stay that way until EOL of the distro.
>
> Anything else is breaking at least the spirit of the distro release
> philosophy.
>
> Sure you can use a different model, like including the volatile
> and / or
> backports packages, but that's not the point. I've heard of these, but
> then I'm a career sysadmin. How many servers out there are managed by
> those, rather than just relying on the testing performed by
> debian/redhat/novell, etc?
>
> Steve.
>
>
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> On Thu, 2010-04-22 at 09:07 +1200, Spiro Harvey wrote:
>
>> But the distro are the ones who gave you outdated unsupported
>> software.
>> Had they provided you with a newer package, you wouldn't have had
>> this
>> problem.
> Spiro, you're missing the point of a distro completely. That is to
> provide a functionally static platform for people to use and release
> to.
Funny, every distro I have used has had numerous updates till it
reached EOL. Did I believe updates stopped because no new
vulnerabilities exist in the distro? Of course not.
> From that point on, only security patches are released. The fact that
> 0.94.x was current when debian lenny was released means that it should
> stay that way until EOL of the distro.
>
> Anything else is breaking at least the spirit of the distro release
> philosophy.
>
> Sure you can use a different model, like including the volatile
> and / or
> backports packages, but that's not the point. I've heard of these, but
> then I'm a career sysadmin. How many servers out there are managed by
> those, rather than just relying on the testing performed by
> debian/redhat/novell, etc?
>
> Steve.
>
>
> --
> Steve Holdoway <steve@greengecko.co.nz>
> http://www.greengecko.co.nz
> MSN: steve@greengecko.co.nz
> Skype: sholdowa
> _______________________________________________
> Help us build a comprehensive ClamAV guide: visit http://wiki.clamav.net
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